How to Fly Your Drone Recreationally

How to Fly Your Drone Recreationally

Well greetings again, everyone! Welcome to today’s
webinar for recreational fliers. My name is Kevin Morris and I’m an
aviation safety inspector with the FAA, and also a subject matter expert on
drone operations. Today’s webinar will be divided into two segments. First, will be
a presentation on the latest updates for recreational fliers. And the second
portion will provide an opportunity to have your questions answered live on the
air. I’m joined by a team of FAA subject matter experts who are ready to
answer your questions — and you can submit your questions at any time during
today’s webinar. If we are unable to get to your question during the webinar,
don’t worry. We will be answering all questions asked
during the webinar, and posting them to our website in the coming weeks. So let’s
begin! As you probably know by now, there have been changes to the rules regarding
recreational flying. Today, we want to help you understand what those changes
are, how you can still fly today, and what responsibilities you have as a
recreational flyer. These changes came about through the 2018 FAA
Reauthorization Act where Congress mandated certain requirements for people
flying drones for fun under the exception for limited recreational
operations. Now, not all of Congress’s requirements could be immediately
implemented. Therefore, the FAA published interim safety
guidance for recreational fliers in an advisory circular — and you can
download that advisory circular in the handout section of this webinar. It
explains how to operate now until the FAA can implement all the requirements
of the Reauthorization Act. More information is available on our website at Now I’ve been using the term
recreational flyer quite a bit, so let me explain what that really means. Recreational flying is flying any
unmanned aircraft, drone, quadcopter, or RC airplane for purely recreational
purposes — meaning you’re flying just for fun. It does not include any flights in
furtherance of business regardless if money is being exchanged or not. If you
are flying in connection with any business related activity, including nonprofits, you must operate under part 107 — also
known as the small UAS rule. So now that that we have all that cleared up,
let’s talk about recreational drone flying. Before you fly your drone, if it weighs
0.55 pounds or more, you must register it. If you are at least 13 years old,
you can register yourself as a recreational flyer with the FAA for
$5.00. Registration is valid for three years, and if you have more than one
drone you fly recreationally, you can use the same registration number on all of
them. Remember: the registration number must be visible on an outside surface of
the drone. Now that you’ve registered your drone, you’re going to
need to follow some basic safety guidelines. First, never fly over groups
of people or stadiums full of people, and never flying near emergency operations.
This is very important. During emergency operations, it’s important that public
safety officials and the FAA know exactly what aircraft are in the air and
where they are located. If you fly your drone near these
operations, they will ground their aircraft and not be able to do their job.
This can be particularly devastating during wildfire emergencies. It
should go without saying but you should never fly under the influence of alcohol
or drugs. You also need to know the airspace you’re planning to fly in.
Generally speaking, there are two types of airspace recreational fliers need to
be aware of: Uncontrolled and controlled. Uncontrolled airspace is
airspace in which air traffic control is not required to provide their services
to aircraft. But just because it’s called uncontrolled, doesn’t mean it’s a free-for-all.
There are still rules to follow. For recreational flyers, you may
fly in uncontrolled airspace up to 400 feet above ground level (AGL). There is no
airspace authorization required and you no longer need to notify airport operators
if you’re flying within 5 miles of an airport. To fly in controlled
airspace, you must have an airspace authorization before you fly,
so let’s talk about what that means for you. There are three ways a recreational flyer can be
authorized to operate in controlled airspace. (1) By flying at an FAA-approved, fixed
recreational flying site (2) Through the Low Altitude Authorization and Notification Capability — or LAANC system. (3) Or by using the DroneZone web portal. Currently, LAANC and DroneZone
are not available for recreational fliers. Therefore, to operate in controlled
airspace today, you’ll need to fly at an FAA-approved, fixed recreational flying
site. Recreational flyers should not contact air traffic control or the tower
directly for airspace authorizations. Here’s some big news: We’re announcing
for the first time, right now, that LAANC, the Low Altitude Authorization and
Notification Capability, will be operational for recreational fliers on
July 23rd this year! That’s only three short weeks away. Recreational
fliers will be able to request and receive their authorizations
in near real-time from companies approved by the FAA to provide LAANC
services. These companies are known as FAA approved UAS service suppliers,
and are listed on our web site. Our web-based portal, DroneZone, is also being updated
to accept requests from recreational flyers, and it will be available at a later time.
For now, until LAANC becomes operational for recreational flyers,
the only way you can fly in controlled airspace, is at an FAA-approved,
fixed recreational flying site. The sites are represented as blue dots on UAS facility maps, and will continue to exist even
after LAANC becomes operational. You can also find a list of approved, fixed
sites on the FAA webpage. If UAS Facility Maps and LAANC
are new to you, good news: We will be hosting two webinars
dedicated to these topics in July and August. When you are flying at a fixed recreational flying site,
you must still comply with all the rules for recreational fliers. In addition to those
rules, there may be specific rules that the flying site uses which you also need
to follow. This is because in order for a flying site to receive approval, they
must have a mutually agreed-upon operating procedure established with the
local air traffic facility. Those mutually agreed upon procedures must
be followed by all users of that site. Now you’re all set to fly — but wait,
one more very important thing. Before you fly, make sure there are no
airspace restrictions in your area. There could be a Temporary Flight Restriction (or TFR)
issued for where you want to fly. TFRs are established for safety and
security reasons, and typically exist for limited periods of time. Large outdoor sporting
events are also included in many TFRs. You also might find that your location
is inside prohibited or restricted airspace designed to protect the safety
and security of certain locations and events. The Know Before You Fly website
and the B4UFLY app are great resources to help you identify where
current airspace restrictions exist. Okay, so your drone is registered,
you’re going to follow safety guidelines, you’ve checked the airspace, you might be asking,
“Can I go fly now?” And the answer is yes! It’s time to go fly! But keep in mind
when you’re flying, there are some inflight rules you need to be aware of.
First, at all times you must keep your aircraft within visual line of
sight (VLOS). This means you must be able to physically see the drone that you’re
flying. There is a provision for all you first person view (or FPV flyers) out
there. You can fly FPV as long as you have someone located physically next to
you, and who can communicate with you without using technology like a cell phone or
a radio. We call that person a visual observer. So, either the person flying the
drone or the visual observer must have the aircraft within visual line
of sight (VLOS) at all times. Keeping your drone within visual line of sight
allows you to stay away from any manned aircraft that may be flying near you.
When you fly, you’re required to avoid all manned aircraft, airplanes,
helicopters, gliders, ultra lights, etc. It’s your responsibility as a
recreational flyer to know the altitude and position of your drone in relation to other
aircraft, including emergency response aircraft. Now, as I mentioned at the beginning of
this presentation, the FAA is working to implement all the Congressional
requirements of the 2018 Reauthorization Act. We are developing a process for
recognizing community-based organizations (or CBOs). Those
organizations that meet the statutory requirements will be formally recognized
by the FAA — and they will have approved safety guidelines for recreational
flyers to follow. They will also have approved procedures to operate large or
advanced model aircraft. Another IOU we have is the aeronautical knowledge and
safety test. When ready, passing this test will be required to fly any drone or RC
aircraft for recreational purposes. We are developing this test, which will
include training material, in consultation with industry and the
general public. Once the test is available, you will need to provide
documentation that you took and passed the test if asked by FAA personnel or
law enforcement. I want to thank you for joining us for
our presentation today. I know that was a lot of information, but you’ll be able to
rewatch this episode, and all of our previous webinars, on our official FAA
YouTube channel at: Our next webinar will be on Thursday,
July 18th, and will cover the Low Altitude Authorization and
Notification Capability (LAANC) system. If you want to know our complete webinar
schedule, please visit: And as always, we have additional
resources available to you on our website at: So we’re going to take a short break right now,
but please stick around because when we come back from our break, we’ll be
taking your questions live on the air. If you’d like your question read on the air, simply submit
your question with the word LIVE in front of that question, and we’ll put it into
the queue to be asked live on the air. So don’t go anywhere, we’re going
to take a short break and be right back Okay, we’re back and we’re ready to start
our live Q&A portion here. As I mentioned previously before the break, if you have
a question you’d like read live on the air, please submit it into the question
box there with GoToWebinar, and it’ll be routed to me and we’ll get to that
question. We do have a couple coming in right away. I just want to remind you
folks that if you don’t want your question read live on the air,
that’s okay too. Our FAA subject matter experts are
still available; you can still type in your question and they will get to it
as quickly as possible. One of the first questions I have here coming in is:
Clarify what you mean by flying over people. This question comes up a lot, and
the best way to answer it is this: Flying over a person is really what the word
says. “Over the person.” So, if you imagine kind of an imaginary cylinder around
somebody, and if that drone were to pass through that imaginary cylinder that
encompasses their body — that if it flew through that cylinder that would be over
that person. Now, if you get a bunch of people together in a group, then of
course that imaginary cylinder gets a little bit bigger.
So flying over someone is literally flying over the top of them or over the
top of where they happen to be, unless say they’re lying down in a field,
then that cylinder would be larger than if they were standing vertically. But just because
you may not be flying over somebody, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be careful.
Remember, as a pilot flying a remote aircraft, you always want to be
careful of where the wind is or other factors. That if you were to lose control
of your unmanned aircraft, that it might fly into somebody. We want to avoid those
situations. So the question is: What do you mean by flying over people? It means
directly over somebody, but always take into account external factors — environment
like wind, weather, things like that, the speed of what you’re flying your aircraft,
the direction that you’re flying it, to make sure that it’s
not aimed towards anyone. So that’s a good question. I really do
appreciate that. Another question coming in here. “If I were to fly a drone to capture
images for a nonprofit organization, and that nonprofit organization were to
use my images to promote their charity events, does that change my status to commercial even if I do not accept money?” So to really answer this question,
and it’s a great question because it comes up a lot, we want to
focus on what was your intent when you flew that drone. Remember, recreational
flying is just that — it’s flying for recreational purposes. You are flying the
aircraft just for fun. Anytime you go up to fly your UAS, that’s in connection
with the business, even if it’s a nonprofit. For example, in that question there,
this scenario was, “I’m going to go fly my drone to get some images
for a nonprofit, and they’re going to use that to promote their charity
events.” That would fall under the Small UAS rule part 107, because your intent of
flying that aircraft on that particular scenario was not purely recreational
purposes. You were going up, you had a mission, it was tied in with the business,
even if you’re not being paid any money. So that’s very important for you to
understand that the exchange of money is not what determines whether or not your
flight would be recreational or not. It’s the intent of what you’re doing.
Anytime you’re flying, if it’s not strictly for fun, then you’re going to be operating
underneath the Small UAS Rule, Part 107. So very good question there.
Looking to see if we have some more questions rolling in. I don’t see
any coming in right now or at least they haven’t been sent to me yet, but some of
the questions that we do have coming up relate to operating in Class G, and where is Class G.
Airspace, when we break it down is broken down into Class Alpha,
Bravo, Charlie, and Delta. During this webinar, I really try to simplify that and keep it in
terms of controlled and uncontrolled, but if you want to find out more
about airspace, we do have a YouTube series, a playlist that’s
dedicated to explaining what airspace is, and how that classification system works.
But really for terms of recreational flying, if you go and rewatch this webinar,
it’ll give you a pretty good idea of when you should, and when you should not,
need an airspace authorization to fly. Okay, so some more questions
coming in, numerous articles on the internet indicate that the FAA has
sole jurisdiction—Oh, I love these questions—has sole jurisdiction on
airspace at the altitudes that recreational drones can operate. How are
parks, cities, and the park service able to prohibit the takeoff, operation, or
landing of drones? To answer this question, which is another
very good question, you really have to divide it into two parts:
The airspace and the ground. The FAA regulates the airspace from the
ground up, but cities, national parks, homeowners associations (HOAs), they may be able
to regulate what you’re allowed to do within city limits on that ground.
For example, a city could have an ordinance that states no drone may be launched or
landed within city limits. And what they’re doing is: they’re restricting
what you can do within city limits. They’re not restricting the airspace.
They’re saying you can’t launch or recover a drone from our city limits.
National parks follow that same type of formula, where they say you’re launching or recovering
drones within national parks is prohibited. I don’t want to go too far down the road
because I’m not an attorney, but we do have our legal counsel as part of our
subject matter expert team, who can help you with these questions. But essentially, cities can regulate what you can do within city limits from the ground. What they can’t
do is restrict you flying in the air. That, again, is the FAA’s jurisdiction. So
if you want a more detailed and more perhaps legally defensible answer, I’d
ask that you put that question back in and let our legal team answer because
they’ll get you much more comprehensive answer than I was able to provide you
there. But thank you for that question. So another question comes in. There is no
community drone group in my town so I can’t find my drone no the requirement
that you follow the safety guidelines if you remember back from one of the first
slides I showed one of the congressional mandates was that you follow the safety
guidelines of a community-based organization well we don’t have those
defined quite yet so what we’re asking is that you follow the safety guidelines
of an arrow modeling organization you do not need to be a member of that modeling
organization in air modeling organization and you do not have to have
them located in your town what the congressional mandate requires is that
you’re following the safety guidelines that they’ve established you can also
look to our website at FAO v /u OAS we also have safety guidelines that we’ve
posted they can use to fly safely so either one where there’s an arrow
modeling organization or you’re following our safety guidelines you need
to be following somebody’s safety guidelines but no they don’t need to be
located in your town you do not need to be a member of that organization either
another question here is what’s the difference now between recreational and
part 107 flyers well probably the the biggest difference between recreational
flying in part 107 is that if you want to get paid to fly your drone you’ll
need to do that under part 107 another example would be a difference would be
that under part 107 let’s assume that Lance is now operational for both
recreational fliers so this is towards the
of July here under part 107 you could request further coordination through
Lance to get access to maybe a zero altitude grid in the facility map or if
the ceiling is 200 feet limited you could request to go up to 300 feet you
won’t be able to do that through Lance as a recreational flier so there are
some differences between the two but I think the biggest one and the reason
most people operate under part 107 is because they can do it for commercial
purposes but I do want to mention here that although we talk a lot about
commercial purposes under part 107 you’re completely okay to fly
recreationally under part 107 as well as long as you’re complying with all the
requirements that part 107 identifies so part 107 you can fly recreationally
under part 107 as well as commercially so good thank you for that question so
here’s a question coming up here how can I fly if my local airport is not
participating in lands another good question if if your Airport is not
participating in Lance and there are a few out there we we just did a big push
not too long ago to incorporate a lot of FAA contract hours into the Lance
program so we’re sort of rolling these out in batches and more and more
airports are getting added in to Lance but if you happen to fly where Lance is
not available and you’re a recreational flier you’re going to need to wait until
the drones own web portal is up to speed to accept requests for recreational
fliers and unfortunately I don’t have a date for you right now of when drones
own our web portal will be available for you so keep watching for that we will
announce it follow us on all of our social media channels that’s the best
way to stay up-to-date on the latest information when it comes to UAS
question coming in here can I fly recreational drones at night all right
okay I figured that question was going to be coming sooner or later so let me
address it this way the statute where all of our authority to issue rules
comes from does not have any straight provisions against night flying by
recreational fliers now now for everybody goes and runs out the door
tonight and starts flying their drone around keep in mind one of my previous
comments which is you still need to be operating under the safety guidelines of
an aero modeling organization that’s that’s still a requirement and so the
requirement to you to fly at night may include things like you must put lights
on your vehicle or you must keep it so far away you really need to do your
research before you go take off and fly your drone at night regardless of what
set of safety guidelines you might operate under you always have to have
your drone within visual line of sight which at night becomes a little bit more
difficult of course it depends on the color of your drone the size of your
drone if you have any lighting and equipment on it things like that but
just because you’re flying at night doesn’t mean that you can lose visual
line of sight so keep that in mind for recreational fliers if you’re flying at
night next question coming in does a certified drone pilot need to get
permission to fly in e-class echo airspace within five miles of an airport
let me try to answer that this way a certificated drone pilot which we call a
remote pilot operates under part 107 and part 107 has almost identical airspace
requirements in terms of authorization as recreational fliers now do so if
you’re going to operate in class Bravo Charlie Delta or surface class echo
designated for an airport yes you will need to receive an airspace
authorization before you fly whether you’re operating under part 107 or
whether you’re doing that as a recreational flyer and again once Lance
comes on board of here in late July you’ll have that same access to that so
the answer is yes certificated remote pilots need airspace authorizations to
to operate in particular controlled airspace another question is where can I
find the airspace map with the fixed sites okay so earlier in the
presentation we did have that website it was posted into the chat but I’m going
to ask our production crew if they wouldn’t mind go ahead and post the u.s.
facility map web link into the chat for everyone to see and you can
go to that website and you can pull up the UAS facility maps and you can see
where all the air spaces across the US and you’re going to be looking for the
best way to describe it our little blue dots and when you see those little blue
dots you can zoom in you can identify where that is who’s in charge
usually there’s a website link to contact but that’d be the way to go and
find those fixed recreational flier sites we have a lot added right now we
are adding more every single day there’s a process they have a particular
location designated as a fixed recreational flying site and if you want
more information on that please put that question into the chat room or the
question box and we’ll get that information to you folks either today or
when we can get these questions posted online for you folks so question coming
in this is another really good question I love the questions you guys are
sending in these are all excellent excellent questions the question is are
you required to take both the part 107 test and the recreational flying test so
again keep in mind are the basic aeronautical training test or the
aeronautical knowledge and safety test whatever name you want to give it right
now is not yet available for recreational fliers so I’m gonna repeat
that right now there is no test available for recreational fliers to
take that is being developed and at a later date it will be a requirement we
are working on trying to address that issue so the the question of I took my
part 107 knowledge test I have a remote pilot certificate can’t I just use that
as evidence as completing a test we’re working through some of that the the
language in the statute doesn’t specifically state that that test would
qualify in fact it very clearly states that if you’re going to fly
recreationally you must pass an aeronautical knowledge and safety test
so we’re looking at how that’s going to work in one of the things to keep in
mind is that as a recreational flier there are some differences some nuance
differences in the rule that 107 doesn’t have for example 107 you’re limited to a
weight well under recreational fires you can fly a drone that’s
than 55 pounds once we have a community-based organization recognized
with approved flying procedures so there are some differences between 107 and
recreational fliers that we want people to be aware of but I can’t give you a
solid yes or no on that question right now but it definitely is something that
we’re considering and that we’re looking at another question here our beaches off
limit for recreational flying or will Lance enable you to fly over certain
beaches Lance itself is an airspace function it doesn’t really matter what’s
on the ground underneath it so when we’re talking about lance and we’re
talking about airspace authorizations we’re talking about the airspace so if
that Beach is in uncontrolled airspace and you remember back to one of the
first points I made here in the presentation you could fly at that Beach
assuming there are no local provisions against you flying a drone from that
Beach but you could fly over that Beach if it were in uncontrolled airspace up
to 400 feet as long as you comply with all the conditions for recreational
fliers now if that Beach is actually part of a class Delta or controlled
airspace let’s say it’s really close to an airport that has a control tower or a
runway then you’re going to need to receive an airspace authorization
through Lance when it comes online before you fly so again it’s not exactly
what’s on the ground that’s determining the airspace requirements it’s the
airspace above that ground that’s really determining that requirements so thank
you for that question do I need to re-register my drone when
my registration expires yes every three years your registration will expire and
you’ll need to go back into drone zone and update your registration profile and
receive a new registration that will be valid again for three years we do the
same for manned aircraft it’s something that we do in order to keep all of our
records up to date on who owns what aircraft and and how that’s working into
our national air space system so yes every three years you will need to
re-register your drone okay so I think I have time for one more
question I know this time flies by pretty quickly it’s been very enjoyable
for me to see these questions coming in there excellent very
intelligent question so I appreciate that the last question I’ll ask here is
is probably good one to wind up on it’s can i clarify what I mean by furtherance
of business if no money is exchanged is that still considered business so what
we’re talking about here is the defining line between recreational flying and
operating under part 107 the small UAS rule and you have to think of it in
terms of this way if you’re flying your drone and the only reason you’re flying
is for pure fun you’re just doing this for recreational purposes yeah you might
be taking some photos but that’s just because you want to take some photos
that’s just because you want to get some videos with your drone because you think
it’s really cool and you get some great pictures with it and it’s just all for
fun you’re just doing this for yourself you’re gonna be a recreational flyer by
pretty much any stretch if you’re flying for any other reason any other reason
than what I just explained you’ll need to operate under part 107 the exchange
of money has no bearing or effect on whether or not that that flight would be
considered recreational or be required to fly under part 107 so keep that in
mind the big defining line is not money being exchanged it’s what you’re doing
when you’re flying your drone are you doing this just for the pure enjoyment
of RC aircraft flying or drone flying then you probably will fall underneath
the exception for limited recreational operations if not you’ll need to operate
under part 107 or the small us rule so I know we have a lot of questions coming
in folks a lot of people attend and I know our production crew with our
subject matter experts we’re going like crazy trying to get to everyone’s
question remember if we didn’t answer your
question during this last half hour we will still answer it
we will post all of those questions and the answers on our website in the FAQ
here in the coming weeks sometimes it takes a little bit of time to get
through all of them but rest assured we will answer every one that you’ve asked
so again I thank you folks for joining us and taking your time out of the day
to understand this subject remember you can re-watch this episode once we get it
posted to our YouTube channel so I wish everyone a great weekend have a great
holiday week next week and remember to fly safe

34 thoughts on “How to Fly Your Drone Recreationally”

  1. Great webinar. Thanks! My two largest takeaways:
    LAANC open to recreational flyers 23 July.
    Hard limit of 400 feet AGL for recreational flyers. Want to fly from a 400 foot tall building? No can do.

  2. I registered my drone and put my number on the drone I don't fly higher then tree tops and can always see my drone also where do I find study materials for safety test? What if your a YouTube channel and take video for your intro also what if you make short films for that same YouTube channel?

  3. Thank you FAA for all your hard work. As a recreational drone flyer, I am excited that I can finally use LAANC in the DFW/Dallas area. I am excited to follow all the rules and laws and I know so many other expert drone flyers are too.

  4. Be advised, if you happen to be flying in the DC SFRA, it's important to read FDC 6/2069, whether you are a recreational flyer or a 107 pilot.

  5. I strongly encourage any and all recreational pilots to watch this video. It does an excellent job of explaining the current state of regulations in the US as well as answering a lot of the common questions pilots have.

    12:48 – Q & A starts
    12:50 – Clarification on flying over people
    14:17 – Do you need a part 107 even if you are not being paid?
    16:02 – Where is class G airspace?
    16:40 – Did the FAA sell jurisdiction for airspace? Or can cities restrict the airspace above them?
    18:26 – There is no CBO in my town, can I still fly my drone?
    19:36 – What is the difference between recreational and part 107?
    21:59 – What if my local airport is not part of the LAANC system?
    21:54 – Can you fly recreational drones at night?
    23:15 – Does a certified drone pilot need to get permission to fly in class E airspace?
    24:10 – Where can I find the airspace map with the fixed flying sites marked?
    25:28 – Will you be required to take both the part 107 test and the recreational pilot test?
    27:07 – Are beaches off limits or will LAANC allow you to fly there?
    28:20 – Do I need to re-register my drone when my registration expires?
    29:10 – Can you clarify what you mean by "in the furtherance of a business?"

  6. Will local law enforcement be trained in regards to the approval process through LAANC for all flying purposes (recreational/107)?

  7. Will the laanc system give faa authorization to fly in the dc frz, or is it impossible to get an authorization in the dc frz?

  8. Love to see them charge gun owners a fee to register each one of their guns. How many people have been killed by a drone ever? How many school children get killed every month by guns? How many people die from airplanes crashing into them every year? And what area are they focusing on? Anything to generate more tax revenue.

    Instead of rubber stamping the Boeing 737 Crash 8s why don't you do your job and focus on real safety issues? Instead of constantly finding ways to harass hobbyist who pose such a huge imaginary risk???

  9. Thanks Kevin and team for explaining the changes, I’m Part 107 but appreciate the recreational rules too.

  10. I don't fly a drone, I fly fixed wing RC aircraft and RC gliders. I maintain visual contact and follow rules established by The Academy of Model Aeronautics. Please clarify for me, does the FAA define me as a drone operator even though I am not operating a drone? Lots of my fellow RC airplane pilots are strictly recreational and are resisting the registration process because they believe that the licences are intended to apply only to drones , and not fixed wing, remotely operated aircraft.

  11. Thank you for your information, I am a brand new drone owner , love to take beautiful picture of sceneries and my family on vacation
    I registered on web site through a company that charged me 25 bucks for label and ID plus 5 bucks for FA number
    I do have FA number, but never get label and ID card . I contacted them but they never answered , i know i got a scam

    So can i just make my own label , write and tape outside drone? Plz verify
    Thank you

  12. I dont understand how you can put a toy grade drone that dont fly over 30 ft before it drops out of the air to a commercial grade drone that will fly ten miles

  13. So FAA regulations and fees and then throw all the individual city bans and regulations and permits in and there is no recreational drone flying any more. Way to go. Yet anyone can get a car and drive like a idiot endangering others and even drive straight up to the airport. How does this make sense?

  14. I will NOT get a license to do something I have been doing for 30 plus years.

    "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." 

    Thomas Jefferson

  15. What bites my ass is that if you 'Monetize' your YouTube then guess what? You are no longer a 'Recreational Flyer'. What a load of FAA b.s.!

  16. Just say no to the FAA trying to regulate hobbyists..people who do stupid things like fly in obviously controlled airspace and endanger pilots etc..are already breaking laws that are enforceable and I don't want some guy with a clip board showing up at my local park and asking if he can "See my papers"…..nope…enforce what's already in place..fine them/jail them/take away their toys but leave the rest of us sensible fliers who have been doing this for decades alone please…..I mean sheesh…what next…R/C cars ?? They can carry payloads long distances you know….ooopss ..well maybe now the FAA can buddy up with Transportation and ensure they stick their unwanted noses in there too…

  17. the people own the land and airspace. regulations are meant to address issues that adversely effect the general public. absolute misuse of power. and i will not comply. these regulations do adversely effect the general public. im having fun when im in the air. and in every hobby there is a level of simi professional. who are you to eliminate that area of business? im not registering anything. that will only put my drone on a blacklist if i dont go do a test. i fly at around 100-150 feet tops and usually lower than i flew a kite (60ft.). fuck the FAA and the jackasses that lobbied cause theyre losing money to private owners. that is what this is about.

  18. I want to buy a drone but do I have to get a license if I will literally use it to record myself and friends when we are dancing for fun? not making money or anything of the sort, just fun and being creative. We post on FB, YouTube and Instagram. And will fly no high then 10 to 20ft in the air, any higher is not necessary.

  19. One web site defined recreational flying as "for not profit nor recognition".

    Even if you're doing a favor for a non profit organization, regardless if want to remain anonymous for your part, once your name is mentioned you received recognition.

    Post you video or pics on Facebook or YouTube, a single thumbs up or like is recognition.

    Not saying the definition is correct or true, but for newbies like myself, definitely food for thought and encouragement to do further research to avoid conflict.

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